Sea Breeze

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  A simple rebuttal to the recent 'Last Minute Repentance' change.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.

  (remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?

  ) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?

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  Sea Breeze

  @Nicolaou

  For decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of God slaughtering billions in a future Armageddon who never even met a JW much less heard their life-saving message.

  You accept a couple of WT assumptions:

  The Anti-Christ is the one doing all the killing in the GT. Jesus shows up at the end and rescues what's left of mankind. The WT doesn't have a biblical life saving message becasue they require that you reject the Mediator and every Lord's Supper ceremony. Their message in one of death.... you own, in order to wipe out your sin. It is the perfect religion for carnal man.

  We wouldn't take the word of a serial killer or abuser that they're going to change their ways in future

  Why should he change his ways? There’s nothing wrong with serial killers if atheism is true, there’s nothing wrong with anything, and atheists have no real justification for complaining about how the world is, much less expressing judgment on anyone, especially someone they claim doesn't exist.
  
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  Sea Breeze

  If we know that a physical body is required to feel physical pain, then that should give us a clue as to what hell isn't.

  I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting that a person's soul cannot feel pain after death?

  Please explain your logic/point.
  
  
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  the toll of being PIMO

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for those of you who are pimo, how do you feel it may be effecting your mental and physical health?

  is it easy to pretend to be what you are not?

  how do you feel about falsely supporting the pimi which builds them up and therefore an org you don't believe in?

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  Sea Breeze

  “the elder who was in an adulterous relationship with a person with whom he was "studying”.

  Studying what? Anatomy and Physiology? Musta been playing God.

  Surely the Holy Spirit knew that only he was uniquely qualified to read the prepared talk that in reality any 12 year old could read, right?
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  Sea Breeze

  With all due respect, your feelings are not the standard by which to apply criminal justice.

  I once watched a young man demand a trial after being offered 7 years in a plea deal for armed robbery. He kept muttering to himself, "They gonna havta give me my time... I 'aint taking nuttin'.

  The trial, only lasted a couple hours because of the overwhelming evidence against him. Having rejected a more merciful sentence, the judge was forced by law to administer what the statute stipulated for this crime - 25 years.

  Man's soul is eternal and was designed for eternal fellowship with God. When we reject God's mercy and grace, it is the same as choosing an eternity in hell, away from the presence of God. It is clear that it is a place of complete conscious abandonment. Those who choose to go to this eternal place will know they are eternally damned and abandoned by everyone, especially God.

  Imagine the level of depravity in a person that would choose that over being a member of God's royal family where you will be comforted and spoiled rotten for eternity. It is an existence where we will sit in judgment of rebelious angels that have caused so much trouble for our families and robbed us of much comfort in this life.

  It is also an offer which includes total revenge on those Watchtower leaders who imagine themselves to be our overlords as "spiritual" jews but do lie. The Lord Jesus Christ has a littlle present for people like me who have watched these imposters wreck havoc on my family for nearly 100 years. This is not my revenge, I wish this on no one. But, the Lord has spoken it and I will be there to receive his love in the presence of my enemies all the same:

  Rev. 3: 9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." - Jesus
  
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  What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?

  by Hellothere in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  personally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.

  that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.

  i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.

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  ”of course we still talk to those who leave JWs and treat them as before but just don’t talk about spiritual thing”

  
  this is a bold faced lie.

  Agreed. Their lying is finally catching up to them. The fact that they stooped so low as to file a law suit demanding that Satan's organization fund them is astonishing. According to their own rules, they should suspend publication of the Watchtower.

  https://wol.jw.borg/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102014257#h=17

  “‘Zion’s Watch Tower’ has, we believe, JEHOVAH for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support. When He who says: ‘All the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,’ fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the publication.”

  Using the "God's Kingdom Rules" book for the quote is good because people can't claim this is "old light" (currently at least).
  
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  the toll of being PIMO

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for those of you who are pimo, how do you feel it may be effecting your mental and physical health?

  is it easy to pretend to be what you are not?

  how do you feel about falsely supporting the pimi which builds them up and therefore an org you don't believe in?

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  @DesiriousofChange

  Then there was that moment I came to the realization that I was NOT in "The Truth".

  What was that moment for you? I have always been struck by the fact that "that moment" varies so much from person to person. Seems like there should be more similarity in why people leave. But I've come to realize that the reasons people leave are quite different from person to person.
  
  What specifically was it for you?
  
  
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  Sea Breeze

  • Which would mean that the JW interpretation is actually the correct one after all.

  • There is literally and symbolically next to nothing correct about WT interpretations.
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  Sea Breeze

  Huh?
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  2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  1914 generation is long gone.

  1975 was a joke 40 years ago.

  i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?

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  Sea Breeze

  The Wt went from saying before 1914 that Christs return was near to: Christ returned INVISIBLY in 1914.

  So, no they will never apologize, but they will symbolize.

  It is pretty easy to get their grift, unless you are just gullible.

  Utter bullsh*t and the drones just lap it up. No apology necessary.
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  Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.

  why don't the jw's do the same?.

  from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).

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  Sea Breeze

  For we walk by faith, not by sight

  I think this verse is a big clue regarding how hell or heaven is to be experienced.

  I think that verse is a big clue on whether heaven OR hell will be experienced.

  God is willing to justify you based on nothing more than belief on our part…. A very generous offer.